In this episode, Joy sits down with Joanna Levitt Cea, Founder and Principal of Valiente Capital Design and lead of the Gender Funders CoLab report Moving Beyond Grant Capital: Meeting the Moment with Innovative Finance. Together, they unpack what it means to truly design finance for context - not just replicate existing models - and explore how fund design can become a tool for shifting power and advancing gender justice.

The conversation dives into the challenges of translation between finance and community knowledge, the pitfalls of “landscape mapping” without real co-design, and the importance of experimentation over perfection. Ultimately, Joy and Joanna invite listeners to imagine finance as an evolving language of possibility - one rooted in courage, care, and collaboration.

Episode Highlights

00:27 - Introduction

04:37 - Start with context, not track record

08:49 - Separating design from management

12:27 - The danger of hidden rules in design

16:34 - Translation: finance language and context

24:43 - Valiente’s brave translation work

31:15 - Move resources now: plurality and iteration

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