In this episode, Joy has a conversation with a colleague, Pablo Freund, who spent several months looking in depth at economic sanctions and investments tied to the realities in Afghanistan at the end of 2021, into the early part of 2022. Human rights were challenged by the shift in power that happened in August of 2021, as the Taliban took control of Afghanistan again. How can we bring a financial imagination to the work of looking at economic sanctions, one of the most complicated parts of our economic system? How can understanding how to use sanctions as a tool to create peace or end conflict to navigate a very complicated terrain. Where is there space for a financial imagination amidst a humanitarian crisis?

Episode Segments  

  • 00:34 - Intro
  • 02:20 - What is the point of a sanction and what does it do?
  • 08:26 - How the US is co-opting the struggle for women’s rights as a justification for the use of sanctions.
  • 15:37 - How do we balance the power dynamics in a feminist foreign policy?
  • 22:49 - What’s the tie between the informal economy and taxation? What are the parallels?  


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